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Digimon Battle: Core Eyes

December 31st, 2013, 5:05 pm

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Reply Ultimate Yoshi, December 31st, 2013, 5:05 pm

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Reply 1ce_k1d, December 31st, 2013, 5:23 pm

13 lines in the last paragraph (not including the YOU GET _/10 thing) you forgot the second l in all.

Reply Light-Called-Hope, December 31st, 2013, 5:32 pm

The Sonic OC thing is something that started a long time ago. I can get why people would be annoyed by it but I do it myself sometimes so //shrugs.

Reply D00D64, December 31st, 2013, 5:38 pm

Ugh, I can't stand the style inconsistencies in author comics either. They ALL do that. I've yet to see one where they all look the same, and the way the writing goes on, its less "let's collaborate to a comic" and more "let's just take turns making issues". Oh, and not explaining or developing anything about anyone's characters ever, just have like, 50 of them, its OK.

I personally feel a good multi-author comic would be one where a few guys do the paneling the same way, and they all work together to actually write it. The Defeat Anyone series is a good example, but that's probably because they're... brothers? Roommates? I can't remember, but there's only two of them instead of like... 6 to 10.

Also, about that panel with the "foureyes" comment; that middle dude's mouth is RIGHT NEXT TO HIS NOSE. The fuck!? And the guy to the right doesn't even look like he HAS a nose! Also, in that panel with "Firefox," why is the doctor dude outlined green? He was just fine in the first panel he was in! Well, as fine as that monstrosity can look.

Reply Syogren, December 31st, 2013, 8:54 pm

@Wolfry: I seriously doubt he hates Sonic characters, considering he's done a whole LP on the Sonic Genesis games. And while I agree that he was a little harsh on you guys (Really? A 1.0? How does it suck THAT bad?) I do think most of his points are valid.

Reply The Responder (Guest), December 31st, 2013, 9:12 pm

@Wolfry: >Who even cares about opinions anyway?
You're the one who asked for the fucking review in the first place, so don't act like you wouldn't be praising him if it was a good review! I love how you only address his problems with style consistency, which is a moot point for an author comic, and his dislike of using Sonic OCs with it, which I get. You don't even acknowledge all the real faults he found in the comic, then have the nerve to tell him to try harder. It's not his fault nearly every character in that comic has little to no personality, and if they do, it's cliche as all hell.

Reply kirby knight 1000, December 31st, 2013, 9:19 pm

@The Responder: Exactly.
Don't want your comic getting a bad rep?
Don't ask for a review.

Reply BioMetalNeo, December 31st, 2013, 10:11 pm

Your judgements are simply way too harsh. First off we all have different styles and programs. Doing comic pages in the same way can be near impossible between different authors.
Second you criticize the story plot, you don't know digimon so that puts your understanding down, we are not giving away the plot straight away yet.
The media gag is because the media always pokes their nose everywhere and it is not always a joy.
Now as for why we use Sonic style character it is because we all had that in common and because the comic is a "Crossover".
Also for the characters personalities, they are just plain different. I find it better they are not all the same and boring as hell.
Finally your mind seems as flexible as a brick, and you are biting at a WIP. This comic series is new and developing, it is a collab between 8 people and we are still sorting out certain things. I take to mind your comments, but lighten up and try being flexible

Reply BioMetalNeo, December 31st, 2013, 10:18 pm

@kirby knight 1000: Maybe so but this guy can't see from our own angle and he is concentrating only on negatives. I do agree a review was a smart idea, but this seems more like ranting

Reply Jarkes, December 31st, 2013, 11:00 pm

@Wolfry: Actually, Ulti's worked on a collab comic before. It ended up failing precisely because he and the other author had inconsistent styles and couldn't keep the plot straight. And that was just a collab between TWO authors. Pesonally, I get that you guys are at least TRYING, but if this is a collab between EIGHT authors... Well, I can't help but think you guys are doomed. I mean, aside from the conflicting styles and the fact that you may not all always be on the same page in terms of plot progression, you've also got to work with your inevitably conflicting schedules and what not...
On the other hand, your comment just seems like, "HOW DARE YOU GIVE US A BAD REVIEW!" to me.

Reply darkthehedgehog53, December 31st, 2013, 11:35 pm

It's not a incorrect review.

Guys its a guy's personal opinion its a comic you guys invited me too so we could have fun. He is telling us what he thinks I don't think you guys should stop having fun because you don't agree. Just improve and prove him wrong is probably the best solution.

But dude if I had to be honest it seems you favor Kirby comics a lot even the ones that seem we did a little better than. But thank you for your input.

Reply kwane, December 31st, 2013, 11:41 pm

I'm backing the review too.

Reply Redkirby (Guest), January 1st, 2014, 12:11 am

@Wolfry: @BioMetalNeo: I just wanna point out that you chose to let him review your comic. You obviously saw him as a valid comic reviewer and the only reason you're upset is because he gave your comic a bad review. While Ulti doesn't know a lot about digimon he did make some very valid points. I'm betting the only real reason you let him review your comic was so you could get publicity for it. You weren't interested in improving your skills or anything, you just wanted to get more people to read your comic.

Reply Redkirby (Guest), January 1st, 2014, 12:12 am

@Jarkes: Ulti worked on a collab comic? With who?

Reply Quirby64_:D, January 1st, 2014, 1:27 am

@Redkirby: I think it was Kirby : The Dee Army!, where he worked with Luigi_96.

Reply Redkirby (Guest), January 1st, 2014, 1:53 am

@Quirby64_:D: Do you mean the first version of the comic?

Reply Draven22, January 1st, 2014, 5:28 am

ummm.h-hi i work on the core eyes comic...and i just wanna say a few things....not bashing or defending anyone....umm..about vero, i've been working on better sprites of him...and i've been trying to get a better since of comicing for like 2 years now, what you saw of my work was 2 years of me figuring it out on my own...as for the review thinig, i didn't know till after a friend showed me and i showed the others..the only one who knew about it was bre...i admit i had a huge "oh god i'm a hoirrble fucking author" moment after reading it but i AM and have been trying to improve...i'm not that good as pointed out but i'll try and pull off some of the things he said

Reply Fighter Dee, January 1st, 2014, 7:06 am

@Wolfry: First, how can you ask about who cares about opinions, if you asked for a review of your webcomic, also there is only ONE part about the usage of Sonic OCs, and is something important to remind, and if you're all working together you should TRY to combine a style, for example using one single program for everyone, and you should work more on your webcomic making if you want a good review.

@Syogren: He gave 1/10 (Not that I agree, just explaining) because of constant flaws that he already explained more than once in other reviews, but keep appearing.

@BioMetalNeo: First if you're all working together you should TRY to combine a style, for example using one single program for everyone, and I understand about Digimon, but didn't understand your plot not even a bit, the media gag, is now explained on your comment, and the characters seem all the same without any clear diference and the flexibility, but I gotta agree that his flexibility is gone sometime from now due to continuous reviews of bad webcomics.

@darkthehedgehog53: Yes, he favor Kirby comics, he experienced and know how it is to make so it gets easier to understand

@Redkirby & @Quirby64_:D: Actually it was a Super Mario World based comic with Luigi_96, not that they don't collaborate on Kirby: The Dee Army! that seems to only be working now because Luigi_96 is doing most of the plot and pages.

@Draven22: At least one of you is not complaining about the review.

And before someone says that I don't understand about collaborations I've seen Ulti and Luigi_96's webcomic, Kirby Dream Team (that I didn't understand not even a bit, and annoyed me due to style changes). This kind of webcomic remembers me of a schoolwork that I did years ago, that was bad it had more than one cover page.

Reply Neon-J, January 1st, 2014, 8:44 am

@D00D64: The "Can Defeat Anyone" guys are brothers, iirc.

@Wolfry: The fact that inconsistencies exist and flow is harder in collab comics shouldn't really matter - the point is: For the READER, this turned out to be a rather difficult read. Which - in turn - results in a lower review.

Collab comics are difficult, and if you can't get it right.. you end up with a inconsistent mess which is frustrating to read. I would say to take a look at the "Can Defeat Anyone" comics for an example of how to do a GOOD collab comic (even if it is SLIGHTLY cheating as they live in the same house :T) - The style and jokes are consistent and it's pretty obvious what's going on at the time. Making it easier to read and - in turn - a more enjoyable read.

@ All the Authors: Ulti has very valid points - take them more as a constructive criticism rather than an insult, though. He's said how to improve. And taking that into consideration, maybe you could grow your comic into something better.

Reply Frost The Wolf, January 1st, 2014, 10:41 am

@Neon-J: Were trying to ake his advice into account. There was just a couple of things in which we disagreed.

Also, Ulti Yoshi? I was wondering if you can do a review on a Solo Project I'm working on called Digimon: Twin Souls. Beforehand though, please PM me if you want some information that might seem confusing for you.

Comic: http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=136508

Reply GabrielsThoughts, January 1st, 2014, 11:03 am

I would like you to review ...

http://nio.smackjeeves.com/

or if you prefer the mirror address

http://niotp.thecomicseries.com/

It's the exact same comic just organized differently. I ask only that you take the time to read it all the way through before making an evaluation and I would like to know what you liked about it before you tell me what you disliked or found distasteful. I would also appreciate it if you kept your evaluation of me, as a person, separate from your review of my comic. Thank you.

Reply Jarkes, January 1st, 2014, 2:34 pm

@Fighter Dee: "Kirby Dream Team?" I don't remember that one...

Reply Fighter Dee, January 1st, 2014, 3:28 pm

@Jarkes: I don't know exactly, it was something like that.

Edit: Kirby Dream Team, here: http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=112273

Reply Redkirby (Guest), January 1st, 2014, 5:24 pm

@Fighter Dee: Ulti and Luigi_96 aren't listed in the authors section.

Reply darkthehedgehog53, January 1st, 2014, 5:33 pm

@Fighter Dee: Well some of those kirby comics I personally think we were little better than and I have been reading through most of them barley had a story line and sticking to it. I am barley apart of the comic but I am not gonna have people say that the authors in this comic are bad or have poor taste, a 1/10 is not a right score for a comic like this no it doesnt deserve 10/10 but it deserves a good review I have only made 2 comics in this but everyone else did a fantastic job. Another thing if you knew digimon then you would probably understand it more and have given it a fair score. An most of the kirby comics he reviewed I think he gave above 4.5 is mainly because he is a kirby fan. If your going to review comics you cant play favorites.

I am sorry if this insulted you bro but the authors in this comic aren't 1/10 hell if anyone is probably me since I barley helped at all.

Reply Guestmeister (Guest), January 1st, 2014, 6:52 pm

@darkthehedgehog53: I "barley" see your point. (Work on your grammar, bro). Sure, Ulti may seem to be biased but that's just because he gets a lot more requests to review Kirby comics than to review digimon comics. All of the points he made are valid and your just mad to see your comic being criticized. Most of the Kirby comics he reviewed were good and did stick to the plot. You're just angry and are making up those things because your mad at his opinion. Now you can either sit around and whine about how "bad a comic reviewer he is" or you can take his review into account and use it to improve your skill.

Reply Princess_Eevee9, January 1st, 2014, 8:44 pm

@Guestmeister: It's bad to tell somebody to fix their grammar when you yourself have a poor understanding of it.

Reply Luigi_96, January 1st, 2014, 9:45 pm

@Fighter Dee: Just throwing this out there, I was never an author of Kirby Dream Team, and I'm pretty sure Ulti wasn't either.

Furthermore, Ulti and I never really collaborated on anything but "Super Mario World Redone", which, as was mentioned, died due to lack of consistency between styles (And I was a horrible author back then).
Now, Ulti has helped on versions 2 and 3 of The Dee Army, but he's only ever made one page when I vanished for a while. He provides input on the pages I make and helps keep the comic from having grammar errors/mistakes and/or plotholes.

I'd love to try collaborating with him again sometime, as I think we could create something totally awesome now, but I think we're both a bit too busy for that.

Reply The Responder (Guest), January 2nd, 2014, 4:10 am

@darkthehedgehog53: Thing is, you're supposed to make your comic understandable even for someone who hasn't seen Digimon at all. He made some pretty valid points all around and to be honest, Core Eyes plot is almost nonexistant at his point. It's been dragging for a while. So there are good and bad things about the review, like every review, it does't make sense to criticize someone's opinion, to me at least.

Reply darkthehedgehog53, January 2nd, 2014, 4:31 am

@Guestmeister: "Bro" don't be a grammer nazi. You knew what I said, I'll leave you with this, "Dudez sorrz 4 my bad gremmer".

Reply sonicmaster05, January 2nd, 2014, 3:19 pm

@Guestmeister:
>>>Talks about someone else having grammar problems
>>>>Switches up the most common mistake in grammar of " your " and " you are ".

Anyone else smell the hypocrisy in the air~?

Reply GabrielsThoughts, January 2nd, 2014, 3:22 pm

@Princess_Eevee9:

It's bad to teach children rules to language that change both noticeably and considerably within a hundred years, much less a decade (And, otherwise varies, depending on which side of the pond, continent, or globe you're on).

Although, I wouldn't mind learning poetry or song writing myself. I think children should be taught the rules to creative pursuits instead of DOL exercises. Short, concise, sentences with excuses for homophone errors, and sentence fragments. Creative writing instead of pointless journaling. One can dream...


Alternatively, if you're going to have them journal anyway, teach them the A-B-C's of REBT and Adlerian psychology. I have it on good authority most psychological principals can be understood by a child.

Think of the children, and spare them from the cost of therapy years later. Free them from an absolutionist belief system that leads to emotional disturbance and linear thinking. (After all, most people who don't live in TV land know math doesn't really teach logic even if it can be used to explain it's fallacies.)

To be fair, I have a bit of trouble with cave man english, slang, and ebonics (or whatever the proper colloquialism is for urban palayah talk). I wouldn't seek to punish it as a behavior because it's so much fun to write it out. And, I think that's part of the reason why it persists. Just be honest, and let them know what you think and someone might take an interest in the conversation. (Even if the interest was piqued by somebody who isn't an intended target of ridicule and humiliation.)

I sincerely don't believe that your intention was harmful or hostile. The statement was clearly meant to be inform, instruct, and provide feedback. I genuinely appreciate your opinion. After all, I too use absolutism in my statements to convey authority [and appeal to "*the ladies."]. No doubt, because it shows others I have great confidence in my correctness.

*And when I say ladies, I imagine that I say it through my nose like the ladies man or cinema snob. Becasue I'm that sexy. Please also note that when I said "the ladies", I meant "the audience."

Naturally, it goes without saying, I am teasing you without intentionally causing harm or ill will.

Reply Me (Guest), January 2nd, 2014, 3:29 pm

@GabrielsThoughts: What has this even got to do with the comic? I'msoconfused

Reply GabrielsThoughts, January 2nd, 2014, 4:53 pm

@Me:

She started the conversation on her own. I'm just evaluating her evaluation of the other visitor who was evaluating the other and so on. I thought that was acceptable, and I apologize if you were harmed when the troll chain broke. I thought it was a game, and I wanted to play along too. Why else would I target the most threatening one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w31nXU7bGcM

Reply Fighter Dee, January 2nd, 2014, 10:12 pm

@Redkirby & @Luigi_96: My bad, I didn't mean that Luigi_96 and Ultimate Yoshi worked on that webcomic, I just meant to say that I read that and it is confusing because it is an author comic, just to clear out.

Also:
@Luigi_96: Super Mario World Redone is the webcomic that I meant when I said "Super Mario World based comic with Luigi_96". I just forgot the name.

Reply Redkirby (Guest), January 2nd, 2014, 10:36 pm

@Guestmeister: Really? Before you go criticizing other people for their bad grammar you should check your own spelling.

Reply The Responder (Guest), January 2nd, 2014, 11:33 pm

@Wolfry: The hypocrisy from this hurts.
And please, the majority of these comments aren't even directed towards you.

Reply 1ce_k1d, January 2nd, 2014, 11:47 pm

@Wolfry: You complain about other people hating your opinion THAT WAS ABOUT HATING SOMEONES OPINION.

Reply Pie God, January 3rd, 2014, 8:33 pm

Back what'd I miss

Reply The Responder (Guest), January 3rd, 2014, 9:30 pm

@Pie God: The world ended.

Reply Haha (Guest), January 5th, 2014, 12:53 am

@Wolfry: Grow up. I'm going to continue this reply later.

Reply Sapar, January 11th, 2014, 11:25 am

...........






....Sweet and sour, it's a good thing I didn't contribute to this mess.

Reply 1ce_k1d, January 14th, 2014, 2:01 pm

@Sapar: You say sweet and sour a lot.

Reply Sapar, January 14th, 2014, 5:08 pm

@1ce_k1d: Just Sugarman lingo, 1ce.

Reply Guest, January 11th, 2015, 2:00 pm

Ulti, I'm sorry you had to suffer through this Garbodor *see what I did there?*, and I'm also sorry that the idiots that made this comic are tossing you all over the place. Let's hope the next Digimon comic you review is MUCH better than this one.

Yeah, I don't get the Sonic OC thing either. It's like if someone made a Pokémon comic with Kirby OCs. *CRAP, I GAVE SOMEONE AN IDEA!*

PS: If you want to learn more about Digimon, go to Wikimon.net. It'll teach you ALL you need to know.

Reply Guest, January 11th, 2015, 2:02 pm

@The Responder: Stuff exploded.

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